tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11904671.post111939570791824645..comments2023-08-25T03:21:41.842-07:00Comments on The Petch House: Doh! Doh!Greghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02807710209656158413noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11904671.post-1132683821834786462005-11-22T10:23:00.000-08:002005-11-22T10:23:00.000-08:00Hello. I just wanted to give a quick greeting and ...Hello. I just wanted to give a quick greeting and tell you I enjoyed reading your material.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11904671.post-1119494115636542532005-06-22T19:35:00.000-07:002005-06-22T19:35:00.000-07:00Yes, I got the email, thanks. I put my name on the...Yes, I got the email, thanks. I put my name on the list for one.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02807710209656158413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11904671.post-1119487945468789422005-06-22T17:52:00.000-07:002005-06-22T17:52:00.000-07:00PS It is not calcimine paint. I have that in anoth...<B>PS It is not calcimine paint. I have that in another room. Someone suggested that I paint it with shellac first, and then skim-coat.</B><BR/><BR/>If it isn't painted over, you can wash this off with water. That was the point of it, only one coat at a time. <BR/><BR/>Anyway, there could have been wallpaper on the ceiling at one time and something in the glue is causing your problems. Chisleing grooves into the plaster to provide a "key" may be a solution. Or wallpaper!<BR/><BR/>If anyone asks at your party, I would look at them and say "Milk Paint!" You will know more than they will and they don't have a clue and those that do will probably say "Ohhhh, bummer."<BR/><BR/>Did you get the link I sent you for the high wheel bicycle?Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14490458126307090201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11904671.post-1119471500002753232005-06-22T13:18:00.000-07:002005-06-22T13:18:00.000-07:00Gary, I wasn't trying to be rude to you. I am gene...Gary, <BR/><BR/>I wasn't trying to be rude to you. I am generally just having fun with this blog. Normally, I don't take these things too seriously. I said in the post, if one more person suggests joint compound I will explode. You told me to use joint compound. I exploded.<BR/><BR/>Your explanation just doesn't make sense to me. Why can I skim-coat plaster a 110 y.o bathroom and have no problems? Why do I not have any problems with the walls. It is only the ceiling. If what you say is true than I should be having a lot more problems, but I don't. Logically, it is not the plaster that is the problem.<BR/><BR/><BR/>PS It is not calcimine paint. I have that in another room. Someone suggested that I paint it with shellac first, and then skim-coat.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02807710209656158413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11904671.post-1119454340940025842005-06-22T08:32:00.000-07:002005-06-22T08:32:00.000-07:00Well, if you won't go for a simple fix then explor...Well, if you won't go for a simple fix then explore this option. The ceilings may have been originally painted with calcimine paint. You are on your own if that was the case!<BR/>I don't give advice because I think I have all the answers. I give advice to save people time and effort because I have done and dealt with so much of these problems, including this one. I told you how I dealt with it. Advice is advice, no one ever listens to me anyway. I can tell you all about calcimine paint too but you wouldn't listen, I'm sure.Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14490458126307090201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11904671.post-1119411051475922892005-06-21T20:30:00.000-07:002005-06-21T20:30:00.000-07:00Ok, 3 it is, but I do like the "complete denial" p...Ok, 3 it is, but I do like the "complete denial" plan as well. <BR/><BR/>Now, this is me Exploding!<BR/><BR/>Gary, I do appreciate your input but as far as joint compound goes there is a huge hole in the theory. The first room I plastered 2 years ago was the original bathroom to the house. It had been a bathroom much, much longer than the bathroom that was added to the kitchen. I had no problems when I did the original bathroom. Also, this "bathroom" in the kitchen has been out of commission for at least 4 years. Moister was not an issue. Also, if it was moisture, that does not explain the "closet".<BR/><BR/>I don't know if you've ever worked with plaster before, but it is very sticky. As sticky, if not more sticky than joint compound, and it did stick initially it just won't hold. What is it with this knee-jerk reaction to joint compound that it is be-all and end-all to wall repair. You don’t know how many people, when I tell them I’m putting finish plaster on my PLASTER walls, have said to me, “Why don’t you use joint compound?”<BR/><BR/>Look, you can put the strongest glue in the world on a dirty surface and it won't hold. It is a fact of life. Read any glue bottle: <I>Surface must be clean</I>. Joint compound is not the answer! A well preped surface is, and that is what I didn’t do.<BR/><BR/>There, I feel better now. I apologize for this out-burst.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02807710209656158413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11904671.post-1119405849665722092005-06-21T19:04:00.000-07:002005-06-21T19:04:00.000-07:00OK, now you have the response here are some explan...OK, now you have the response here are some explanations and a fix. The "bathroom" plaster got wet at some time or over time from humidity. Joint compound will stick to it because joint compound sticks to anything. If you want to cover the chips, use a paint roller and roll top coat on the ceiling like you would paint. This will give it a slight texture though but will mask the chips quite well . If you are painting the ceiling white you can mix the paint with the joint compound before you do it and save yourself the step of painting the ceiling. If you choose this option you may want to use regular joint compound since the paint will thin it out a bit. We did this to some of the ceilings on our second floor where we didn't mind a slight texture. Works just fine. A contractor told me about this trick, I don't make stuff up, I'm really not that creative!Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14490458126307090201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11904671.post-1119404384356395602005-06-21T18:39:00.000-07:002005-06-21T18:39:00.000-07:0033Monicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13722177722942754281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11904671.post-1119402491755052302005-06-21T18:08:00.000-07:002005-06-21T18:08:00.000-07:00I heard wetting the existing plaster works too. I ...I heard wetting the existing plaster works too. I haven't done any real plaster work, I've just used the quick set joint compound. Once it's painted, I can't see the differnce. I haven't done a whole ceiling though, I can't imagine.Derekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14134900860188022345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11904671.post-1119400661580755702005-06-21T17:37:00.000-07:002005-06-21T17:37:00.000-07:00I'm a number 3 myself. I'm all for confronting thi...I'm a number 3 myself. I'm all for confronting things directly. Tin ceiling sounds like a plan. <BR/><BR/>You could always try complete denial, "What do you mean? I don't see anything? Have you had Lasik surgery recently or something?" (Look very concerned while you are saying this)<BR/><BR/>I am glad to see you are keeping a sense of humour about this too. I would be the same as you and not want to do ir over- I hare redoing things but sometimes it's unavoidable.<BR/><BR/>You know, I should have said that Plaster Weld would be available through a drywall supply house- hardware stores don't carry it.Jocelynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13570623978361702328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11904671.post-1119397948323800452005-06-21T16:52:00.000-07:002005-06-21T16:52:00.000-07:00I love the first option. See if you can start a t...I love the first option. See if you can start a trend!Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00516809614849861582noreply@blogger.com